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Scotland and Catalonia

by on 13/09/2014

The Scotish referendum for seperation from Great Britany, it has to be understand as a historical process. The recorded European history started with the Roman empire. (Before that it was rather a east Mediterranean Sea history).

The Roman Empire was followed by medieval feudal political structure. If characterized with one sentence it was the rule of Mafioso kind of lords, who looked at their statehood as their private property. At certain time, mainly for the purpose of war, these lords joined their forces and subjected themselves and their holdings to the King, who was the first among many. Then the system was stabilized, and the kings became rulers, who got their blessing from the local clergy and the pope.

Later on, the residents in these kingdoms developed culture with certain uniqueness, that made them different from the residents of the neighboring kingdoms. This kind of uniqueness became more and more relevant when it became the basis for national identification. The Napoleon wars started a process of national states, that on one hand created unification in case of Italy and Germany, and on other hand separation in case of Austria-Hungarian empire. But also much later to dismantling of USSR.

And finally, the political leaders following the WWII had no choice but to learn from the history, and were unwillingly wrapped into a new state formation, the European Union. By the way it was not initiated by some important politician but by Robert Schuman, a Frenchman with German name, (that probably played role too at the time), who came up with a very humble proposition, if we see what came out of it. Creation of European Coal and Steel Community, whose members would pool coal and steel production. I feel it is necessary to add here a link about him since no one speaks about him and all the credit for creation of EU went to more senior political figures like Konrad Adenauer and Charles de Gaulle.

Since the collapse of USSR, the trend in Europe is on one hand towards unification. It is a rather slow and tiresome process, due to some narrow minded local politicians, who oppose the necessary process of losing their grip on the decision process in their “Home Land”. Another political-social trend in Europe is a slow process of accepting the fact that political entity’s main and almost only task is to create and economically and socially prosperous environment to its citizens. No one things anymore that state is created to fight wars for some self nominated Political-Gods or for some idea created by some half witted self-nominated prophet.

And as to Scotland and Catalonia, they just don’t want to share their riches with those to whom they don’t feel they belong too. Its not surprising that the richest parts of Spain and also Great Brittany (Not so great and not so Britain) want the separation. Scots believe that as part of Euro Zone, with Euros in their pockets and their petrol will do economically better than with the GB and the pound. The Barcelonians just don’t like the Madridians, and why should they share their wealth with them and the Andalusians.

And anyway lately FC Barcelona is better than Real Madrid so who cares about Spain.

  1. The tragedy of Europe was caused by its two major rivers, the Rhine and the Danube. Since The Roman times it divided the Continent. Charlemagne was the first to unite Europe across the Rhine. Unfortunately it was not long lasting. The next one who could try to do it was Napoleon. But he was to eager to fight wars. Unfortunately at the time did not exist bungee jumping, that could potentially pacify him.
    The 20 century brought three unification experiences, the WWII of Hitler, then the Soviet- Stalin ( SS ) experiment, and the last one, the EU. Fortunately this one was the only successful one.

    Let us hope that this time the unification will thrive in spite of all those short sighted, petty minded but laud speakers.


  2. Jean Monnet is another French founding father of Europe. De Gaulle was rather anti-European and did not help… Although he was for Franco-German reconciliation, and friend with Adenauer, those two were effective leaders for Europe, but not real engines.

    The French also started the idea of the SDN, that is the UN, in 1916 (that’s generally attributed to USA president Wilson, who I have also exposed in my considerations as a backstabber and USA supremacist, no holds barred!)


    • Yes Monnet, Bech from Luxemburg, Beyen the Dutch banker, and some others non of them politicians of the first line. As said before, the first line political leaders needed to be tricked to give up any of their sovereign power. Also then they signed the first unification treaty only at 1957 in Rome, as reaction to the Soviet invasion to Hungary, when they signed the treaty of European Economic Community (EEC). The Berlin and Cuban crisis at 1960 give them farther push for new agreements. De Gaul joined Adenauer only at 1954, and until 1962 he was too troubled by the Algerian war to be too helpful in the process of European unification. In the mid sixties the success of unification became so obvious that no one could oppose it any more.
      Then again at 1968 a new Soviet cruel occupation of Czechoslovakia together with the radical students revolt in Paris and continuous threat from the Italian and French pro Soviet communists gave new push to unification process. At 1972 the first steps toward Euro were on way. GB joined the EU only at 1973, with lots of political mumbling.
      I think Europe should thank to USSR that with its enforcement of despotic toward its vassal states in Eastern Europe and its policy of continuous threatening of the western half of Europe, it forced them to continue with the unification.


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